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Stone-throwing cannon

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Digging into Tudor ships a bit, I ran into some information on cannon that shot stone that I wanted to offer up for everyone, with some modifiers for FF&S/WTH if building a stone-thrower.

All stone-throwers fire only solid shot and must be smoothbore.

For energy and shot mass calculations, apply a material modifier of 0.3. This adjusts for the difference in density between iron and stone (granite is 0.31, limestone is 0.3, and sandstone is 0.29 if you want more granularity). Note that this will affect Pen, the amount of powder needed, and the cost of ammunition.

If a cannon is designed to only fire stone (some cannon could fire either), reduce its mass by half. The Spanish rule of thumb was that a iron-shooting cannon should mass 300 times the weight of shot, while stone-throwers were as low as 130 times the weight of shot, so halving the mass is an easy way to approximate the difference.

To compare two cannon:
Both are 15.24 cm (6"), 24 caliber, truck-mounted, TL 2 breechloaders.

Iron: 1.56 Mj muzzle energy, Range 148, Shot Weight 13.90 kg, Powder Charge 3.48 kg, Gun Mass 2.56 tons, Carriage Mass 3.07 tons, Cost 57,344 credits, shot cost 70 credits, powder cost 17 credits. Dam 34, Pen 10-8-7-5.

Stone: 0.47 Mj muzzle energy, Range 148, Shot Weight 4.17 kg, Powder Charge 1.04 kg, Gun Mass 1.28 tons, Carriage Mass 1.54 tons, Cost 28,672 credits, shot cost 21 credits, powder cost 5 credits. Dam 34, Pen 5-4-4-2.

Smoothbore cannon designed to fire iron projectiles can fire stone as well, with the reduced powder charge. This can be done to save cost. Stone ammunition should increase in cost relative to iron ammunition as TLs increase, as it's less conducive to mass production. As a rough way of doing this, if using the economic model from WTH, both types of ammunition are Industrial Output, but iron's cost remains constant while stone's cost is multiplied by (Output/100), so at TL 2 it costs 1x, at TL 3 2x, etc.
 
Paint-tins filled with concrete from a Saker (Circa 1640) work well as a substitute for stone and have a range of about a mile (1500-2000m). Their aerodynamics are a bit rubbish though so hitting the same thing twice (well once really if you are aiming) will be tricky.
 
Windage.

Easier to cast a perfectly round iron ball, than chip one away in stone.

Actually, since you need a mould for the cast iron shot, if you are using concrete, you simply fill the mould with concrete under a bit of pressure and let it set. You can then reuse the mould for the next round. If you use a hollow, two-piece metal mould, you can make as many concrete shot as you want. At that point, concrete is cheaper and easier to produce than cast iron. You just have to adjust the size of your guns accordingly. Stone shot works perfectly well on wooden hulls. It may not carry as far, but at close range, it can be deadly.

In Gunpowder and Galleys, John Guilmartin discusses the economics of cast iron verses stone shot, which did pose a lot less stress on the early cannon, and comes to the conclusion that you need very cheap labor to produce it. The Ottomans had a source of very cheap labor, which is why they used stone shot the longest.
 
Actually, since you need a mould for the cast iron shot, if you are using concrete, you simply fill the mould with concrete under a bit of pressure and let it set. You can then reuse the mould for the next round. If you use a hollow, two-piece metal mould, you can make as many concrete shot as you want. At that point, concrete is cheaper and easier to produce than cast iron. You just have to adjust the size of your guns accordingly. Stone shot works perfectly well on wooden hulls. It may not carry as far, but at close range, it can be deadly.

In Gunpowder and Galleys, John Guilmartin discusses the economics of cast iron verses stone shot, which did pose a lot less stress on the early cannon, and comes to the conclusion that you need very cheap labor to produce it. The Ottomans had a source of very cheap labor, which is why they used stone shot the longest.

Metal molds for concrete will be quite a bit more expensive than the sand castings used for iron shot. It pretty much inverts the economic problem so that you have stone shot (high labor, low capital), iron (medium labor, medium capital), and concrete (low labor, high capital). There weren't historical scenarios in the gunpowder era where labor rates spiked high enough to make concrete shot practical, but in TNE, a planet with significant enough post-Virus death rates could end up in that situation.


For alternative historical use, time would also be an issue; Smeaton building the Eddystone Lighthouse in 1759 had to develop a quicker-drying material in order for it to set in 12 hours between tides. Earlier cements will generally be limited to less than 2 shot per day per mold, and some would be less than 1 per day. Iron cools quickly enough (and sand boxes can be created quickly enough) for the molds to be used as many times as the furnace is tapped (usually twice). With the relative cost of molds, getting concrete shot to a high rate of production would require very large capital costs and some skilled labor to create the molds. It's definitely possible, it just needs some thought into the background to make it practical.
 
What if you were to not mold stone shot, but rather take raw, smaller stones gathered together, as in a shotgun shell? Could a “casing” be cheaper than molds, while still delivering the punch required?
 
Archaeological evidence shows that bloomeries appeared in China around 800 BC. Originally it was thought that the Chinese started casting iron right from the beginning, but this theory has since been debunked by the discovery of 'more than ten' iron digging implements found in the tomb of Duke Jing of Qin (d. 537 BC), whose tomb is located in Fengxiang County, Shaanxi (a museum exists on the site today).[7] There is however no evidence of the bloomery in China after the appearance of the blast furnace and cast iron. In China, blast furnaces produced cast iron, which was then either converted into finished implements in a cupola furnace, or turned into wrought iron in a fining hearth.[8]
Although cast iron farm tools and weapons were widespread in China by the 5th century BC, employing workforces of over 200 men in iron smelters from the 3rd century onward, the earliest blast furnaces constructed were attributed to the Han Dynasty in the 1st century AD.[9] These early furnaces had clay walls and used phosphorus-containing minerals as a flux.[10] Chinese blast furnaces ranged from around two to ten meters in height, depending on the region. The largest ones were found in modern Sichuan and Guangdong, while the 'dwarf" blast furnaces were found in Dabieshan. In construction, they are both around the same level of technological sophistication [11]
The effectiveness of the Chinese human and horse powered blast furnaces was enhanced during this period by the engineer Du Shi (c. AD 31), who applied the power of waterwheels to piston-bellows in forging cast iron.[12] Early water-driven reciprocators for operating blast furnaces were built according to the structure of horse powered reciprocators that already existed. That is, the circular motion of the wheel, be it horse driven or water driven, was transferred by the combination of a belt drive, a crank-and-connecting-rod, other connecting rods, and various shafts, into the reciprocal motion necessary to operate a push bellow.[13][14] Donald Wagner suggests that early blast furnace and cast iron production evolved from furnaces used to melt bronze. Certainly, though, iron was essential to military success by the time the State of Qin had unified China (221 BC). Usage of the blast and cupola furnace remained widespread during the Song and Tang Dynasties.[15] By the 11th century, the Song Dynasty Chinese iron industry made a switch of resources from charcoal to coke in casting iron and steel, sparing thousands of acres of woodland from felling. This may have happened as early as the 4th century AD.[16][17]
The primary advantage of the early blast furnace was in large scale production and making iron implements more readily available to peasants.[18] Cast iron is more brittle than wrought iron or steel, which required additional fining and then cementation or co-fusion to produce, but for menial activities such as farming it sufficed. By using the blast furnace, it was possible to produce larger quantities of tools such as ploughshares more efficiently than the bloomery. In areas where quality was important, such as warfare, wrought iron and steel were preferred. Nearly all Han period weapons are made of wrought iron or steel, with the exception of axe-heads, of which many are made of cast iron.[19]
Blast furnaces were also later used to produce gunpowder weapons such as cast iron bomb shells and cast iron cannons during the Song dynasty.[20]



Oldest European blast furnaces[edit]

The first blast furnace of Germany as depicted in a miniature in the Deutsches Museum
The oldest known blast furnaces in the West were built in Dürstel in Switzerland, the Märkische Sauerland in Germany, and at Lapphyttan in Sweden, where the complex was active between 1205 and 1300.[23] At Noraskog in the Swedish parish of Järnboås, there has also been found traces of blast furnaces dating even earlier, possibly to around 1100.[24] These early blast furnaces, like the Chinese examples, were very inefficient compared to those used today. The iron from the Lapphyttan complex was used to produce balls of wrought iron known as osmonds, and these were traded internationally – a possible reference occurs in a treaty with Novgorod from 1203 and several certain references in accounts of English customs from the 1250s and 1320s. Other furnaces of the 13th to 15th centuries have been identified in Westphalia.[25]
The technology required for blast furnaces may have either been transferred from China, or may have been an indigenous innovation. Al-Qazvini in the 13th century and other travellers subsequently noted an iron industry in the Alburz Mountains to the south of the Caspian Sea. This is close to the silk route, so that the use of technology derived from China is conceivable. Much later descriptions record blast furnaces about three metres high.[26] As the Varangian Rus' people from Scandinavia traded with the Caspian (using their Volga trade route), it is possible that the technology reached Sweden by this means.[27] The step from bloomery to true blast furnace is not big. Simply just building a bigger furnace and using bigger bellows to increase the volume of the blast and hence the amount of oxygen leads inevitably into higher temperatures, bloom melting into liquid iron, and cast iron flowing from the smelters. Already the Vikings are known to have used double bellows, which greatly increases the volumetric flow of the blast.[28]
The Caspian region may also have been the source for the design of the furnace at Ferriere, described by Filarete,[29] involving a water-powered bellows at Semogo [it] in Valdidentro in northern Italy in 1226 in a two-stage process. With this process, the molten iron was tapped twice a day into water, thereby granulating it.[30]
Cistercian contributions[edit]
One means by which certain technological advances were spread within Europe was a result of the General Chapter of the Cistercian monks. This may have included the blast furnace, as the Cistercians are known to have been skilled metallurgists.[31] According to Jean Gimpel, their high level of industrial technology facilitated the diffusion of new techniques: "Every monastery had a model factory, often as large as the church and only several feet away, and waterpower drove the machinery of the various industries located on its floor." Iron ore deposits were often donated to the monks along with forges to extract the iron, and within time surpluses were being offered for sale. The Cistercians became the leading iron producers in Champagne, France, from the mid-13th century to the 17th century,[32] also using the phosphate-rich slag from their furnaces as an agricultural fertilizer.[33]
Archaeologists are still discovering the extent of Cistercian technology.[34] At Laskill, an outstation of Rievaulx Abbey and the only medieval blast furnace so far identified in Britain, the slag produced was low in iron content.[35] Slag from other furnaces of the time contained a substantial concentration of iron, whereas Laskill is believed to have produced cast iron quite efficiently.[35][36][37] Its date is not yet clear, but it probably did not survive until Henry VIII's Dissolution of the Monasteries in the late 1530s, as an agreement (immediately after that) concerning the "smythes" with the Earl of Rutland in 1541 refers to blooms.[38] Nevertheless, the means by which the blast furnace spread in medieval Europe has not finally been determined.



In siege warfare, you're basically sitting around, looking for something to do to pass the time; so chiselling away at some local boulders seems an economic use of that time.

Naval warfare looks at achieving results within a given time frame, hopefully faster than the other side.
 
Where are all these iron furnaces coming from to mass produce the iron to cast the shot?

1. One could simply presume that if there are enough iron furnaces to cast a 2,560 kilogram gun barrel, that casting some 13.90 kilogram shot will also be possible. Each shot contains, after all, 1/184th the amount of iron used in the gun.

2. More analytically, fairly large masses of iron can be cast at a fairly low TL. The Saugus Works (1646-1670) are either very late TL 1 or very early TL 2 depending on how one chooses to interpret time. It produced one ton of iron per day. This was just 16 years after the first Europeans colonized the Boston area. A single furnace of that type can produce about 70 shot per day for the cannon in the original post, or enough iron for about 40% of a cannon. The mid-TL 2 Cornwall Furnace in Pennsylvania (1742-1883) produced 24 tons of iron per week, and was just one of twenty-one furnaces built in Pennsylvania between 1716 and 1776 (along with forty-five foundries and four bloomeries also built in the state during that time). During the Revolution that single furnace cast 24 cannon and 86 tons of shot (along with stoves for the army). If the materials are available to cast cannon, they're available to mass-produce shot.

3. Ammunition amounts were typically low at early TLs. When Medina Sidonia took over the organization of the Armada, he increased the ammunition allocation for each gun to 50 rounds. This sounds absurdly low by our standards, but most of the ships returned with significant remaining ammunition stocks, while the English fleet ran out of ammunition twice during the running battles in the Channel, suggesting their stocks were not significantly higher (and probably lower).
 
Alternatively, cast the cannon barrel in bronze.

I believe the Spanish cast some of theirs in platinum.

Bell metal also makes reasonably good gun metal, and bell casting was quite advanced in the Middle Ages. It did require both copper and tin, neither of which was as cheap as iron, but it did make good guns. The British were making cast iron cannon by the end of Henry the Eighth reign, who was firmly convinced on building up England's military power. England had large supplies of good quality iron ore, but not that much copper, although they did have the Cornish tin mines.

The problem with cast iron cannon is that when they fail, it tends to be a bit spectacular, with fatal results to those nearby. Bronze guns tend to bulge before bursting. Thomas Rodman developed probably the best method for casting large cast iron cannon shortly before the American Civil War, making possible the production of the 10 inch, 15 inch, and 20 inch Rodman pieces, along with the U.S. Navy's 11 inch and 15 inch Dahlgren guns. Alexander Holley in his treatise on arms and armor looks are the various materials for cannon and gives some records of use. For the most part, except for the Rodman process cast pieces, touching off a big cast iron cannon was always a bit chancy.
 
Bronze becomes a strategic material.

Iron is easier to access and cheaper to manufacture.

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Alternatively, cast the cannon barrel in bronze.

I believe the Spanish cast some of theirs in platinum.

Mel Fisher found some iron cannon that had 2-4% platinum content, but there wasn't a way to melt elemental platinum until 1782, when Lavoisier did it by adding oxygen to increase the heat. Malleable platinum didn't exist until 1772, when Carl von Sickingen alloyed it with gold by sintering powdered metals, dissolved the alloy in hot aqua regia, precipitated the platinum out with ammonium chloride, set that on fire, and wound up with malleable elemental platinum.
 
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