Timerover51
SOC-14 5K
In case you are not up on the abbreviations, COACC stands for Close Orbit and Airspace Control Command.
My copy arrived today, and it does satisfy my curiosity. Fortunately, it was not too expensive.
Just a few quick notes.
1. The "Ypres" primitive fighter is pretty close to being a De Havilland DH-9A, so I assume that a cost comparison to a Real World DH-9A is justified. The book lists it as costing 41,600 Credits. In 1920, the government of Australia was offered by the UK, DH-9A aircraft for a delivered to Australia price of 3,300 British Pounds. I will leave it to others to figure out the Pound-Credit exchange rate. Australia was also told that the Vickers Vimy twin-engine bomber would cost about 10,000 British Pounds delivered to Australia.
2. The "Tuscon" TL 6 fighter on page 13 is pretty much a ringer for the US P-51 of World War 2. The price for the "Tuscon" is listed as 135,700 Credits. In 1945, a P-51 had a unit cost of $50,985 US.
3. The "Cheyenne" TL6 jet fighter on page 15 is a ringer for the US F-86 Sabre, and has a cost of 439,000 credits. The flyaway cost for an F-86E, the primary model used in the Korean War, was $219,457.00. broken down as follows: airframe=$145,326, engine(installed)=$39,990, electronics=$6,358, ordnance=$4,138, and armament=$23,645.
For those interested in flyaway costs of US fighters and bombers since the end of World War 2, go to the following website:
http://www.afhso.af.mil/booksandpublications/titleindex.asp
and download the two volumes of the Encyclopedia of U.S. Air Force Aircraft and Missile Systems. It gives the development history of the fighter and bomber, some idea of its combat usage, and some of the problems that the aircraft had.
If you are interested in the costs of civilian aircraft, I would recommend the U S CIVIL AIRCRAFT SERIES by Joseph Juptner, as the 8 volumes cover all of the US civil aircraft that were certified by the US government for operation in the US. You get detailed specifications for all but a few of the 800 aircraft covered, along with costs of the various models, and capabilities. It is a very useful reference work. A fair number of the aircraft in the 1930s ended up being used by the military, the DC-3 being one of the most prominent ones.
Then for coverage of civilian aircraft up to about 1962, some of which also were used by the military, notably the Boeing Stratocruiser, derived from the B-29, and the Boeing 707, used as the KC-135, you have The World's Airliners, by Peter Brooks. This does include your early jet airliners, and an added benefit to the book is the author also gives the operating cost per mile for the aircraft, albeit in 1962 British pounds and pence. At that time, the British Pound - US Dollar exchange rate was fixed at $2.80 per British Pound. It also includes the initial civilian helicopters, most of which were also used by the military. An extremely useful book, and for those who are using the COACC book, it could be an immense timesaver it delivering already designed and costed aircraft for ready use.
Edit Note: I probably should have labeled this thread as a NON-OTU to avoid rule issues.
My copy arrived today, and it does satisfy my curiosity. Fortunately, it was not too expensive.
Just a few quick notes.
1. The "Ypres" primitive fighter is pretty close to being a De Havilland DH-9A, so I assume that a cost comparison to a Real World DH-9A is justified. The book lists it as costing 41,600 Credits. In 1920, the government of Australia was offered by the UK, DH-9A aircraft for a delivered to Australia price of 3,300 British Pounds. I will leave it to others to figure out the Pound-Credit exchange rate. Australia was also told that the Vickers Vimy twin-engine bomber would cost about 10,000 British Pounds delivered to Australia.
2. The "Tuscon" TL 6 fighter on page 13 is pretty much a ringer for the US P-51 of World War 2. The price for the "Tuscon" is listed as 135,700 Credits. In 1945, a P-51 had a unit cost of $50,985 US.
3. The "Cheyenne" TL6 jet fighter on page 15 is a ringer for the US F-86 Sabre, and has a cost of 439,000 credits. The flyaway cost for an F-86E, the primary model used in the Korean War, was $219,457.00. broken down as follows: airframe=$145,326, engine(installed)=$39,990, electronics=$6,358, ordnance=$4,138, and armament=$23,645.
For those interested in flyaway costs of US fighters and bombers since the end of World War 2, go to the following website:
http://www.afhso.af.mil/booksandpublications/titleindex.asp
and download the two volumes of the Encyclopedia of U.S. Air Force Aircraft and Missile Systems. It gives the development history of the fighter and bomber, some idea of its combat usage, and some of the problems that the aircraft had.
If you are interested in the costs of civilian aircraft, I would recommend the U S CIVIL AIRCRAFT SERIES by Joseph Juptner, as the 8 volumes cover all of the US civil aircraft that were certified by the US government for operation in the US. You get detailed specifications for all but a few of the 800 aircraft covered, along with costs of the various models, and capabilities. It is a very useful reference work. A fair number of the aircraft in the 1930s ended up being used by the military, the DC-3 being one of the most prominent ones.
Then for coverage of civilian aircraft up to about 1962, some of which also were used by the military, notably the Boeing Stratocruiser, derived from the B-29, and the Boeing 707, used as the KC-135, you have The World's Airliners, by Peter Brooks. This does include your early jet airliners, and an added benefit to the book is the author also gives the operating cost per mile for the aircraft, albeit in 1962 British pounds and pence. At that time, the British Pound - US Dollar exchange rate was fixed at $2.80 per British Pound. It also includes the initial civilian helicopters, most of which were also used by the military. An extremely useful book, and for those who are using the COACC book, it could be an immense timesaver it delivering already designed and costed aircraft for ready use.
Edit Note: I probably should have labeled this thread as a NON-OTU to avoid rule issues.
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